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The hardscape and design-build companies pocketing a 15%+ net profit margin aren’t working harder than the guys scraping by at 1%.
They just stopped guessing. They replaced feel with rate-based estimating, live job costing, and simple templates that take pricing out of the owner’s head and put it on paper.
By late May, the first big projects of the season are in the ground. Some are wrapping up. If you are like most design-build operators, right about now is when you start to feel the gap.
Not the gap between what you sold and what you built. The other gap. The yawning chasm between what your business is supposed to be making on paper and the actual cash showing up in your bank account.
The Profit Gap is the difference between a business that just trades dollars to survive and a tight operation that maximizes every crew hour.
The industry average net profit for landscape companies doing over $1 million in revenue hovers around 1%. One percent.
On a recent webinar hosted by Granum, industry expert Brian Fullerton sat down with Pat Murray and Kenn Deemer, co-founders of Local Roots Landscaping. A few seasons back, their business was stuck at that exact 1% baseline. But after completely rebuilding how they estimate, track costs, and invoice using LMN, they finished last year at a 15.5% net profit.
That jump from 1% to 15.5% is the profit gap. It isn’t a marketing problem, and it isn’t a sales problem. It’s the difference between guessing and knowing.
A 1% profit margin is rarely the fault of one job going sideways. It’s what happens when you price by gut feel, schedule from memory, check the numbers only at tax time, and invoice whenever you finally find a minute at the kitchen table.
On their own, each step feels fine. Stacked together, they compound problems.
Pat Murray calls this the “guesstimating loop.” When your pricing, schedules, receipts, and invoices live in separate silos, you have no way to catch a bleeding job until it’s too late.
“Chaos turns into stress. Stress turns into angst. Angst turns into panic. Panic turns into cash flow being ruined. So all of these things really stem from ‘let’s see what happens,’ and that’s called guesstimating.” — Pat Murray, Co-Founder, Local Roots Landscaping
“Chaos turns into stress. Stress turns into angst. Angst turns into panic. Panic turns into cash flow being ruined. So all of these things really stem from ‘let’s see what happens,’ and that’s called guesstimating.”
— Pat Murray, Co-Founder, Local Roots Landscaping
The fix isn’t working longer hours inside a broken system. It’s replacing the system entirely.
Here is a quiet margin killer: pricing jobs based on how fast you could build it.
Your foreman is not you. Your new crew lead is not you. Even a solid right-hand guy can’t make field decisions as fast as the guy who owns the company.
Alex Cadieux of Techo-Bloc breaks down the math: A project that wraps Friday at 4:00 PM with you on the tools will easily push to the following Monday at 2:00 PM without you. That shift derails next week’s schedule, stalls your cash flow, and quietly eats the profit you built in.
Your labor rates have to reflect the crew that is actually running the shovel, led by the foreman who is actually on-site.
A production rate isn’t a single, flat number. To protect your profit, it has to change based on the weather, the crew, and the dirt.
“You could be pricing a job great for the month of July, but be losing your shirt on that exact same job, with that exact same price, on that exact same house, in April or May or October or November.” — Alex Cadieux, Techo-Bloc
“You could be pricing a job great for the month of July, but be losing your shirt on that exact same job, with that exact same price, on that exact same house, in April or May or October or November.”
— Alex Cadieux, Techo-Bloc
The shops hitting 15%+ profit know these numbers before they quote a single square foot. They don’t rely on averages.
Estimating from scratch on a blank spreadsheet is a massive bottleneck. When you have to manually remember every single bag of sand, block, and screw, you are going to forget something.
Pat recalls a retaining wall bid that almost went out missing entire pallets of block—not because anyone was lazy, but because the line item wasn’t staring them in the face. Alex’s dealer surveys across the U.S. and Canada show that crews average three extra material runs per project.
The case of structure glue you forgot to quote doesn’t just cost you $75 at the dealer, it costs you $225 in downtime while a $40/hour crew sits in the truck waiting for someone to go buy it.
“Our brains can only carry so much. Templates, production rates, cost codes—all of that removes the mental load… It gives owners back their sanity.” — Pat Murray, Co-Founder, Local Roots
“Our brains can only carry so much. Templates, production rates, cost codes—all of that removes the mental load… It gives owners back their sanity.”
— Pat Murray, Co-Founder, Local Roots
A real estimating setup uses inclusive templates. It shows every single item a hardscape project could possibly need by default. You just delete what you don’t need, instead of straining your brain to remember what you do.
The data is brutal: 35% to 50% of jobs go to the contractor who responds first. Research from the Harvard Business Review shows that getting back to a lead within an hour makes you seven times more likely to land the work.
When you are the owner, the builder, and the estimator, bids stack up on your truck dashboard. Pat tells coaching clients all the time: a lack of leads is almost always an estimating logjam in disguise.
Using templates and locked-in labor rates lets you get clean, accurate bids out the door in days, beating the slow guys every single time.
“How did we do on that backyard?” is a December question for 1% companies. The 15%+ companies ask it in May, while they can still do something about it.
Kenn Deemer compares it to walking across a crowded warehouse blindfolded versus with your eyes wide open. Both guys want to get to the other side, but only one can see the obstacles and adjust his steps in real-time.
“It’s why people end up turning their pockets inside out in December, saying, ‘What just happened? Where did everything go?'” — Kenn Deemer, Co-Founder, Local Roots
“It’s why people end up turning their pockets inside out in December, saying, ‘What just happened? Where did everything go?'”
— Kenn Deemer, Co-Founder, Local Roots
Live job costing gives you a clear window into today. If your outdoor kitchen installs are running over hours in June, you have months to fix your pricing or shift your sales focus. Year-end job costing just tells you how much money you already lost.
Cash flow stress is usually just invoicing procrastination in disguise.
“This is the dumbest source of stress in the industry: we don’t have the cash to pay our people, so we take that cash away from ourselves to pay them. We don’t have the cash to pay our vendors, so we’re begging for an extra week.” — Alex Cadieux, Techo-Bloc
“This is the dumbest source of stress in the industry: we don’t have the cash to pay our people, so we take that cash away from ourselves to pay them. We don’t have the cash to pay our vendors, so we’re begging for an extra week.”
Why does it happen? “The reason you didn’t get paid is because you didn’t invoice the client. And you didn’t invoice the client because you were busy building the job.”
The fix: Invoice on the honeymoon. Bill the client the day the project wraps—the exact moment they walk out onto their new patio and see your best work. Do not wait two weeks until the grass seed has washed away, a light fixture looks slightly crooked, and your final payment turns into a negotiation.
You don’t need to overhaul your entire business by Monday. Pick one of these steps and fix it now:
The tactical advice shared by Pat, Kenn, and Alex covered way too much ground to fit into one read. You can watch the full, uncut webinar hosted by Brian Fullerton on how the team built a 15.5% net profit operation here: Watch the Full Discussion on YouTube.
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